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that in the house now boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >>> want to bring in david nakamara and meredith shiner. david, i'll start with you. you know, the president coming back for appearance sake as some might say or, you know, when we look at what he can do tomorrow what might he have in the works here? >> richard, i think to get a look at that, look at friday scaling down the proposal. he said i want a big deal ultimately but before the new year we don't have time and probably going to work with senate -- the senate to sort of come up with a possibly smaller stop gap deal. he wants the tax breaks for those under $250,000 and maybe temporary measures to delay the spending cuts or a stop gap measure to buy time after the new year. >> in addition, as a part of that smaller deal you talk about, david, to you here, meredith, there will be extension of unemployment insurance, perhaps also putting off the automatic cuts and as david was noting, extending the tax cuts for incomes up to $250,000. some folks are asking, though, meredith, is this the best they can hope for?
. is something he said to speaker john boehner leaving room for compromise? if politicians don't take us over the cliff, will the unions in what is threatening to strike you right in the wallet. share everything. share brotherly love. share one up's. mom ? mom ? the share everything plan. lets your family share a pool of data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. now get a lucid by lg, free. read the headlines and they say the president is giving up his vacation to negotiate a fiscal cliff deal but is something he said before leaving for hawaii leaving room for negotiations? what are we talking about? set it up. >> the president is heading back to washington to attempt a last ditch effort with speaker boehner to forge compromise to avert the fiscal cliff which will kick in in about six days if nothing's done. those are the headlines. everyone talking about cutting his vacation short. the question is there anything that can be done? they were at an impasse before christmas, the republicans and house imploded and it's a tight spot. i suspect if there's a deal, it will be unpalatable f
return from tight to work on the deadlock in d.c. tomorrow. is something he said to speaker john boehner leaving room for compromise? if politicians don't take us over the cliff, will the unions over the cliff, will the unions in what is threatening to strike lead paint poisoning aects one million children today. if you're pregnant or have young children and your home was built before 1978, you could be at risk. learn how to protect your family. to find your home's danger zones, the health effects, or just to find help, log on to leadfreekids.org. read the headlines and they say the president is giving up his vacation to negotiate a fiscal cliff deal but is something he said before leaving for hawaii leaving room for negotiations? what are we talking about? set it up. >> the president is heading back to washington to attempt a last ditch effort with speaker boehner to forge compromise to avert the fiscal cliff which will kick in in about six days if nothing'ss done. those are the headlines. everyone talking about cutting his vacation short. the question is there anything that can be done
obama will be deadlock. but i it's something he said to john boehner leaving any room for compromise? if politicians don't take us over the cliff, will the unions? what the they're planning this k in from boston to houston threatening to strike you in the wallet. eric: read the headlines and they say that president is giving up his vacation takes toe a fiscal cliff deal, but is there any room for negotiation? let's talk about it a little bit. >> the president is heading back to washington to attempt a last-ditch effort with speaker boehner to forge some compromise to avert a fiscal cliff which will kick in in six days if nothing isone done. those are the headlines are we talking about is cutting his vacation short in tha and that l well and good. is there anything that can be done because they really seem to be at an impasse before christmms, the republicans in the houseors, imploded and a ve, very tight spot and i suspect if there is to be a deal it'll be a pretty on powering one for all involved. eric: john boehner, putting it up on the screen. $800 billion in tax revenue on the t
it won't happen. boehner is at his weakest point ever. to push something through. doing that would weaken him even further. he still needs to be elected speaker on january 3rd. if you're boehner, you let this thing slide past january 3rd, getting yourself elected, and then do what you have to do. >> will he be stronger in. >> he won't be stronger. there will be about eight more democrats. >> really it's his caucus. >> but he'll be speaker again. if it does it, then you have a couple days to consider -- if he gets reelected and is speaker again, then it's much more trouble to unseed somebody who is already sitting there as the speaker than it is to stop him from running in the first place. >> if i could add to what ryan is saying, the only thing is he'll be proposing to his caucus a tax cut. everybody changes on january 3rd. you're no longer talking about some people getting a tax increase. harry reid and john boehner for instance said -- the speaker saying the senate should take it up. harry reid is speaking on the floor. let's take a listen. >> because americans' taxes are approaching th
is a part of the process. >> the current freshman class has given speaker boehner -- how do you see your freshman class in along with the speaker -- getting along with the sp eaker? >> i do not know him well. i believe that our freshman class is a diverse group of folks. we of the more than a dozen business owners. -- have got more than a dozen business owners. we have dozens of folks who have been involved in local and state governments. they're coming to washington to get things done. speaker boehner has a very hard job. when president obama makes a decision for the executive branch of government, it is the agenda for that branch of government. speaker boehner cannot really do anything more than the votes he can obtain for any part of that agenda. i have heard very little of any kind of uprising. i certainly would anticipate voting for him. >> you mentioned a little bit about your time in the state legislature in indiana. one of the things i was interested in was, you saw the way that the house worked in the 1990's. you went back to indiana, ran for state legislature, you were elected.
the details tonight. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner back in washington immediately heading to the white house for a late afternoon fiscal cliff meeting which brought the president and congressional leaders together for the first time since november, but it's unclear if it brought country any closer to avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody is going to get 100% of what they want, but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and, in fact, the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> reporter: the president called the meeting as lawmakers pointed fingers in this high stakes game of chicken. >> it's republicans who are holding hostage the middle class in america so that the wealthy don't have to pay their fair share. >> we need two words, presidential leadership on not just taxing rich people, we could tax all the rich people and cut their heads off and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. >> reporter: with time running out hopes for a grand bargain
think we're at a point after, after the implosion by boehner and the party not to be able to come to an agreement with president obama. that we're talking about a short fix relative to a new congress dealing with the complexity and a comprehensive package of long-term, of fiscal policy in this country. that's what many of us have asked for, that everything has been to be on the table. that it has to be an honest and open discussion. >> you just said that everything should be on the table. the president has made this clear. he said that everyone needs to give a little bit to reach the grand bargain. and a new gallup poll says that 68% of americans want congress, that's you, to compromise. to come up with a solution. only 22% say stick to your principles. now, you spoke out against the president's first off, saying it looked like he was offering a cut to social security, but if his next offer looks the same and that's the only way to come together, would you support it? >> honestly, the support and many of us, including myself, are disappointed that cutting social security benefits
the debt ceiling and with some of boehner's closest allies had met in the speaker's office and said to him, john if you come back with the deal, that you fashioned with obama this doesn't get more than say 100 votes or so and the republicans, cancer has cantor has started a whispered campaign and you are going to be -- we saw it happen with speaker gingrich and it can happen here. boehner walked away from a deal shortly after that. >> i want to come to the interplay between the leadership on the republican side in in a second but i have to ask this based on what you said. i think you know the president gave what was initially an off the record interview to the "des moines register" editorial board, speaking although he did not get the endorsement of that paper in one of the things he said in the interview was he believed he could get a grand bargain struck on the debt ceiling if he were reelected on november 6. a son what you're saying they may not be possible if if the freshman and now sophomores and many members who come and don't eventually give a nether blessing to cut a deal. in her m
for congress' performance are different from that which the republicans use. as speaker john boehner has said over and over, the second pass a record low number of those pixel of the congress that were not imposing regulations and not increasing taxes. that's way one of looking on it. the way most people look at it attested to by record low popularity approval rating is that this is a congress that has been defined by dysfunction of the law, a congress in which has never been writer than none and where compromise is really seem to be a foreign-policy, a policy foreign to the roast great deliberative body. >> to think of people who ran in 2010 and got elected with the people who ran before it ended now ascended to of leadership leave no with a solution or they were elected to not do things as opposed to do things? >> again, from the class of 2010 and now i refer to the 87 freshman, the so-called tea party class of the 112 congress, their belief is they are doing precisely what the people who elected them wish to do, which is rollback obama initiatives to cut spending. a lot of them thought the
, speaker john boehner voted yes. and here's what the deal means for you. no tax hikes for couples earning less than $450,000 a year. itemized deductions capped for couples making over $300,000 a year. unemployment benefits extended for a year for 2 million americans. and that irritating alternative minimum tax permanently adjusted for inflation. >> this fight is far from over. the deal doesn't address spending. drastic cuts have been deferred now for two month and you can be sure the battle will get messy. and then there's the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling. we just hit it according to the treasury secretary and the president already drawing the line in the sand for that fight. >> i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills that they've already racked up. if congress refuses to give the united states government the ability to pay these bills on time, the consequences would be catastrophic. >> brianna kealar is live from washington working triple duty for us. so tell us more about what is not included in this deal and what battles are now lo
president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up, that unemployment is still available for 2 million people on that lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction on economic growth steps that we can take in the new year but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting on sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it's a very serious meeting on it took an ex
: well, you know what, peter? there's not lost love between boehner and president obama. are they going to meet? >> reporter: they might, gregg. the speaker is expected to return to washington soon but we still don't know of a specific time set aside on his calendar to meet with the president. actually the last we heard from the speaker he said that since voters in november picked republicans to control the house, he is going to stay true to his party's principles in december in the course of making any kind of a compromise. >> the american people reelected president obama on election day. they also reelected a republican majority here in the house. in doing so they gave us all a mandate. it was not a mandate to raise taxes on families and small businesses. it was a mandate to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country's future. >> reporter: the house and the senate will both be back in session tomorrow and the president has said he expects them to quickly vote to pass legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff, if, he and the speaker are able to make a deal b
things by john boehner but he could have been right. democrats gave up a lot and they're going to be prime with giving up tax increases, the one thing they responded to about spending cuts for year so get ready for a lot of talk about spending cuts. >> anything to negotiate? >> i think spending cuts, reasonable democrats realize there have to be spending cuts. this is a new day, serious economic crisis. for 20 years we talked about for 20 years the republican party stood in the way of any meaningful tax increases and i think this was a big win for president obama and i do think the democrats acted responsibly. >> was it nice to wake up to this morning? >> the good thing also was that it was a compromise and the republicans were not, we didn't make the republicans, you know, pay for the entire election. >> let's leave with a smile on our face. thanks so much for being with us. you're all right yourself. >> thank you. >>> victor blackwell with "cnn newsroom" continues. >> good morning, happening in "the newsroom" dodging the fiscal cliff crisis for now. with all of the talk about
a picture of speaker john boehner there on the front page. how did he factor into this and what was his message to members? guest: he had it tough because he's the one who will eventually need to say he got something done. no one wants to be on a book for the tax increase. they called it eclipsed for reasons. the tax increase on middle class americans was the biggest part of the cliffs. it was the biggest threat to gdp growth of if you let the taxes go up. so that is a tough position he's in. he is facing comment and criticism from conservatives saying don't pass this, because this is just more debt. so it's a tough balancing act. in the end, he has said for his role speakership and he wants the house to work its will. convenientt's a good way to put it at times. and taken back up and say let us see what the house does aunt clara at the house do what it wants. and you're inevitably split with republicans and you let it go through that way. early in the process he voted and walk away and they were gone. during debate last night, many democrats showed up to debate the measure if and said
war in a weekend. >> dave: he can get it done but there is still john boehner and the house republicans. i'm not modestly optimistic. anything through the house at this point. >> juliet: like lindsey gram said two days ago when you call a meeting publicly in washington it usually turns out to be the dog and pony show or theater basically. honestly calling at this late hour. they met for an hour. what could really go down in that type of meeting? things can go down but really, it's just at the edge. they waited so long. they all went on their vacations. >> clayton: here are some things on the table to answer those questions perhaps. generalities. we don't know what's been tabled. democrats still strong about this. they say they were, yeah, here is -- take a look at this. keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year or less. we know that's there. that may shift because we are hearing from republicans they may be willing to go as high as $500,000 a year. of the extended. >> dave: that's my guess. >> extending unemployment tax benefits for 2 million folks still unemployed.
speaker boehner? how likely are we going to see a vote before going over the cliff? >> it's up in the air. i'm told it is in part why house republicans didn't make a decision whether to bring the house back or when to do it. the ball is really in the senate's court, specifically with senate democrats. that changed big time since a couple of weeks ago. at this point what senate democrats are trying to figure out is whether or not they can find enough republicans to cross party lines for what the president proposed right before he left for hawaii which is a scale back, focusing on tax cuts and saying what he campaigned on during the entire campaign which is only keeping tax cuts in place for those under $250,000. it is a big ask to try to get -- by our calculation ten senate republicans to cross over. they think with the deadline they are up against it will be hard to go home and say i let everybody's taxes go up. >> what do we know about what is in this scaled back bill? it's still being crafted. that's part of the dance being done in the next few days, which is what do democrats have to p
day. >>brian: why wouldn't they be. when you went to bed, john boehner served up two possibilities. one you could vote on the senate bill which passed overwhelmingly. two, the house might amend the senate bill and add a bunch of spending. he didn't have enough votes for that entree and in the end a whole bunch of republicans voted for the senate bill, although a whole bunch of republicans voted against the senate bill. it has passed. >>juliet: pretty amazing all the drama over the last 48 hours as opposed to nothing happening over the 48 years. let's take a breakdown. here's a look at how we break down the numbers. $622 billion is what we're seeing in new tax hikes, just $15 billion in spending cuts. we'll get more on that later. $1 spending cut for every $41 in tax hikes. that is pretty much what it amounts to. >>brian: the dollar in spending cuts for every $41 in tax hikes that is for the first year. in ten years it is going to be $1 worth of spending cuts for every $10 of tax hikes. for a lot of republicans, they go that is a lousy deal. >>brian: we're basically reviewing the sa
and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it to the house floor for a vote before new year's eve and house minority leader nancy pelosi
a difference in every season of the year." the president and speaker john boehner have not spoken in nearly a week. when the house republicans convene conference call today, all they were told is lawmakers will get 48 hours' notice if and when they need to come back to session. the talks first stall over the preferred option of plan "a." moving from the income level of $250,000 to $400,000. the focus shifted to plan "b," boehner fallback and would have raised tax on those making $1 million but failed when could not get republican votes. >> all eyes turn to the senate that could be key to a deal on plan "c." scaled-back bill that the president says will focus on unemployment benefits and reverting to the 250,000 level on taxes. >> i asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. lays the groundwork for further work on growth and deficit reduction. >> that means taxes go up for some now and spending cut on medicare and other programs are kicked to another date. >> what the presiden
of the reason, just like i don't believe john boehner actually does the house speaker. there is this group in the middle, first of all they are not sure where the political blame would lie. it could end up on them and they want want to have that happen. second of all these are deal mayors. they came to washington to get deals done. and they see the result, the goal as a deal to get past this rather than looking at the numbers. the folks on each side eve are looking at the numbers and they say the deficit would be in better shape and the economy in the long run is in better shape. they are looking long term. the deal makers in the center are looking right now and say they are scared of the political consequences and we are not quite sure how the numbers end up, the last thing we need is a rescission. >> reporter: steve vin dinin in washington. thank you. >> reporter: new information on a horrified christmas eve tragedy as a note left by this ex-con suggests that he planned to kill first responders and possibly some of his own neighbors when he set this massive inferno, it happened on monday
on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decision ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers are saying they will likely take on tax reform and spending cuts again in the new year when the debt ceiling debate heats up. richard, back to you. >> looks like they will be working over the new year. thanks for your time. >>> a note was left by the suspected shooter that killed two firefighters in new york. more on details of the person already convicted of murder. >> reporter: police say this christmas eve ambush of four volunteer firefighters attacked as they arrived to battle a massive fire in new york. >> it was a raging inferno out there. >> reporter: it was spelled out in typewritten detail. >> quote i still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood i can burn down and do what i like doing best, killing people. >> reporter: authorities say 62-year-old william spengler, who served prison time for killing his grandmother more than 30 years ago shot at first responders who arrived at h
was $200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion higher on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decisions ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers will likely take on spending reform and tax cuts when the debate heats up. >> looks like they will be working over the new year. >>> a note was left by a suspected shooter that killed two firefighters christmas eve in new york. more details on the person already convicted of murder. >> reporter: police say the christmas eve ambush of four volunteer firefighters happened as they fought a massive fire in new york was spilled out in typewritten detail. >> quote i still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood i can burn down and do what i like doing best, killing people. >> reporter: authorities say 62-year-old william spangler, who served prison time killing his grandmother more than 30 years ago shot at first responders who arrived at his burning house, spreading this six other homes. >> we are being shot at multiple firing. i am shot. i think he's using an a
it's not as if he doesn't have an awfully strong hand to play. if it's a deal john boehner can accept, frankly, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a strong majority. if earn he's not neutral or favorable, his chances will be a lot slimmer. >> we will find out in the morning whether any progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >> we've been asking you, our viewers, to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives. so let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us into, bring a balanced budget to the table to grow this economy for the long term not the short term. >> there you go. for the long term, not the short term. >> there you go. i'm don lemon. happy new year to you. jooirksz . >>> hello, i'm don lemon and this is cnn's top 10 of 2012. we look at the stories that captured our attention, what we see as the biggest
have a sense what republicans are telling speaker boehner? how likely are we to see a vote in time to avoid going of the cliff? >> it is in part the reason why house republicans didn't make a decision to bring the house back or when to do it. the ball is in the senate's courts especially with senate democrats. that has changed big time since a few weeks ago. at this point what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can find enough republicans to cross party lines for what the president proposed right before he left for hawaii which is a scaled-back bill focusing on tax cuts and on what he campaigned on which is only keeping the cuts in place for those making over $250,000. is it a big ask to get ten senate republicans to get them to cross over. >> so what more do we know then. it is still being crafted and that is part of the dance that's being done in these next few days which is exactly what do democrats have to put into this in order to lure those republicans if anything. is there anything they can do. fundamentally, for most republicans voting for the president's
than the norm. >> president obama and today's edition of "meet the press." speaker boehner in particular said "the president has never called for the senate to act on those bills, he has allowed the democratic controlled senate to lead our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. congress people from both parties are searching for a bipartisan solution. that is the leadership that america needs, not what we saw from the president this morning ." those of the comments from speaker boehner. the house has gaveled out. we expect them back in about two hours. let's go to newbury port. caller: thank you for c-span. i do not understand where this $250,000 number comes from. i am 70 and have never been asked to make a sacrifice by any congress. it just seems to me that if the average income in most states -- to ask people making $125,000 or more, to ask them to contribute more, that seems to be a no- brainer. i do not see why people in this country are not ready to make a compromise. let's face it, we will either all have to pay slightly more taxes and accept the fact that our bene
not to hold the vote. this congress term end at noon tomorrow. house speaker john boehner's spokesman says the congressman is committed to getting the bill passed this month. that isn't good enough for some of his colleagues from new york. >> absolutely inexcusable. we have a moral obligation to hold this vote. the people who are out of their homes and who are cold and without food, the people who lost their jobs. they don't have the time to wait. we cannot walk away from our responsibilities. >> it is our obligation not as democrats, not as republicans but as americans to make sure that we come to the aid of americans. >> more than $2 billion of federal money has been spent so far on relief efforts. fema still has more than $4 billion in its disaster relief fund to cover costs until early spring. >>> montgomery county courts will begin holding their first public same-sex marriages. since midnight yesterday, gay couples around the state have held private ceremonies. the courts reopen for the first time in the new year and the circuit court clerk says she already has four ceremonies lined u
of market sense, then you're losing. if senator reid says something and speaker boehner says something else, nothing fundamental has changed. white stock investors are buying and selling based on political speeches is beyond me. host: what index will you be watching? here is a headline from the wall street journal -- what index will you be watching? guest: think consumer confidence is the big indicator. there are a number of ways to measure it. if you go back to the august debt ceiling deal, i think people did not even realize in washington, but you look at the data, he saw a major drop in consumer confidence around the time and it became clear that politicians were arguing and squabbling and were not coming to terms. i think that is a severe problem in this recession because consumer demand is not strong enough to propagate a strong economic recovery. anything that dampened consumer demand is a problem. watching these politicians not getting together, even if they get a deal, the damage there is down. you see your leaders not being able to take simple steps. the deal they are talking about
to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will be able to discuss more details about a scaled-down fiscal cliff plan. and maybe that could lead to some sort of agreement ideally for all parties in which all the senators say that they will not filibuster it, and it can go to a vote. and then speaker boehner could, in theory, agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor after the house comes back on sunday. and then we would get all of this behind us before new year's eve. how likely does that sound? not so likely. >> yo
focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointing towards the senate as a place where we might get bipartisan cooperation. they think they have 10 republican votes for some kind of a plan that the president would propose that democrats in republicans in the senate could get together on and then ask speaker boehner to have a vote on it in the house. that could be a problem for speaker boehner because he could get a bill passed with that splits his republican caucus and puts in danger his re-election as speaker on january 3rd. kelly: that is a lot of talk going around in circles in washington right now. you're very optimistic something can be done but on the other hand there are several economist, juan, that predict indeed we'll go over the fiscal cliff and the inaction of congress has the potential of plunging the united states into another recession. that said, they can't afford to becoming a reality. >> so far they have been very fortunate that the markets have not reacted with pani
to be done in the senate. the house did its best, boehner did his best, now it's up to the senate to come up with something. is that your position now, your understanding of how your house leadership is handling this? basically the ball is in the senate's court? >> all you have to do is look at what harry reid, the leader of the senate has been saying from day one. every time that speaker boehner put forth a common-sense plan to fix this problem, harry reid would say, right off the bat it is doa, dead on arrival. not one thing that speaker boehner proposed that reid said, oh, we can work with that. it's about scoring political points. the american people are tired of all of us, i understand that. we just make used car salesmen look good. that's the only group is below us. but we've got to get our act together, and prove to the american people that we can regain the trust that they once had in us and get the job done. and as you say, not kick the can down the road. they want to us work this out. i hope we do. >> let's talk about something a little more bright. the former marine stuck in mexic
be a measure to require democratic support in the house which speaker boehner was not relying on then. you look at this lo the judgically, this is entirely possible to get through congress, the issue is, it is politically possible to get through congress? we don't know the answer to that. >> thank you, brianna keilar. >>> police are investigating whether nbc's david gregory violated d.c. gun laws when he displayed what he described as a 30-round magazine during a "meet the press" interview. >> here is a magazine that carries 30 bullets. isn't it possible that we got rid of ese and said you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn't it possible we could reduce the carnage? >> i don't believe that will make one difference. >> we don't know if that was authentic or a prop, but having a large-capacity ammunition device like a magazine is illegal in washington, d.c. if it holds more than ten rounds of ammunition, whether or not it's attached to a firearm. >>> los angeles, pushing up its gun buyback, in light of the newtown massacre it was originally set for next may. in
on the "meet the press" and called out mcconnell and boehner on tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall package. >> reporter: the sticking point for them is that they say the democrats want to use the revenue that would come from new taxes to use that to cover the cost to prevent some of the spending cuts that are part of this so-called fiscal cliff. republicans want to see more deficit reduction. democrats say that could come later, but this would be a smaller plan. there are really some serious differences and not a lot of time left. congress has created its own deadline to this so-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal!
,000 a year as the president presented to speaker boehner? >> well, you know, i think that republicans have been willing to accept the idea thatevenue is going to have to be part of this solution. we also believe that the chuck schumer principle, which is $1 million, he ought to extend the rates for everybody under $1 million. that's something that if the democrats in the senate want to pick up a bill that passed in the house and amend it, send it back to the house, i think that's something that might pass. right now, we're at a stalemate because democrats haven't been willing to consider the issue of spending. all they want to deal with now is tax increases. that's bad for the economy. that hurts jobs. >> to that point, senator schumer, are there cuts to the budget you'd be willing to go along with at this point to avoid the fiscal cliff? if so, what are they? >> well, obviously, there are cuts in the budget. we know we have to cut some of the mandatory programs and do other cuts, but it has to be accompanied with revenues. willie, i'm getting a little more optimistic today. sometimes it's
for a tax increase of any time? i think that plan b that speaker boehner paul ford is a clear indication that they will not. at some point, the republicans have to say i will vote for a tax increase. even if it is a small one. [talking over each other] dagen: and you have on the other side digging in their heels about making slight tweaks. lack of movement on the democratic side. >> no, you cannot, dagen. dagen: why can't you argue that? [talking over each other] >> the democrats have voted for this. what was the number one charge of the vice president ryan? it was democrats would reduce medicare. this is not that anymore. you cannot make that argument anymore. the beginning is when the republicans say i will vote for tax increases of some kind. i will guarantee you, guarantee you they will vote for a change in medicare and the rest of it, but they have to say, look, this is both revenues and expenses on the table. this goes back to george bush and what he did in 1990. remember what happened to him. it is very difficult for elected officials to vote for something when they think it will
:00 a.m. eastern time and that will get him back thursday morning where he & and speaker boehner need to figure out how to bridge a 400 million dollar gap in their positions to avoid the fiscal cliff. the last time we heard from the president, he thought a break would benefit and bring lawmakers together. to make a difference >> everybody can cool off and drink egg nogand have christmas cookies and sing christmas carrolls and enjoy the company of loved ones and ask every member of congress when they are back home to think about that. think . obligations of people who cent us here. >> speaker boehner is expected to return to dc any time he with drew the republican plan b deal that extends tax cuts to everyone under millionaire. he was confident that the cliff could be avoided last time we heard from him. >> of course, hope springs eternal and i know we have in us to come together and do the right thing. we'll work on a plan to protect families and small businesses. >> and so there is time for a in person meeting. >> we are getting some twitter for rick. what is new york city looking li
not see the republican -- john boehner is working with the president to do anything. they do not do anything. they have -- they do not work with the president. i am wondering, why does he not work for the american people that they elected to do the american people business, not their business. host: thank you for calling. a live picture of the u.s. capitol. 7:23 in washington. some heavy rain and perhaps some snow. a. when terry mix are expecting in town. we mention that because the president is heading back into town. the senate and white house -- the senate and house are due back tomorrow. this is an politico. there is another piece of this morning that says the house member elect is also interested in the peak in the seat -- adapter the seat. springfield, va., lewis, an independent. caller: good morning. you could consider me a little bit pessimistic. i am actually looking at it as realistically as possible. i have a degree in macroeconomics. i believe that they all should be -- we should institute term limits on all of them. maybe a six-year term limit. they're all thinking of r
speaker john boehner would allow a vote on this plan on the house floor, knowing that so many house republicans oppose o. jim. t nancy cordes with the president in hawaii. thank you. farmers will also feel the impact if lawmakers fail to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. bimultibillion-dollar aid bill may be a casualty of the casuemate. the ripple effects would be felt far from the fields. we asked anna warner to look into that. >> reporter: eagle lake, texas, depends on rice. it's been grown here since the 1800s. drought is usually the biggest threat, but the nervous talk in the drugstore now is about congress. >> without the farm bill, it really makes it uncertain for ehat you should do next year. >> reporter: steve is a pharmacist here and a rice farmer. the people are nervous. >> very nervous. wh reporter: what are they saying when they're coming in? what are you hearing? >> "what do we do?" you know, they don't know what to do. ht's so uncertain right now that the banks don't know what to do. the farmers don't know what it do. they're out there plowing the land, getting it all
boehner has not yet publicly endorsed the deal. and even though congress did not meet the midnight deadline, tax cuts will be retroactive if the bill is eventually signed into law. terrell? >> tara mergener in washington, thank you so much. the bill also extends unemployment benefits for 2 million people. it prevents a 27% cut in fees for doctors who treat medicare patients. but many americans will see a tax hike because the bill does not affect a scheduled 2% increase in the payroll tax. it also kicked the can down the road on automatic spending cuts for the defense department and domestic programs. they've been postponed for two months. as lee cowan reports, that uncertainty has many business owners worried. >> reporter: jo ann vinute is running the numbers. her payroll is due this week. although she at least now has a hint on what taxes to withhold from her dozen employees, that's only half her worry. unresolved spending cuts are the other. >> it's very uncertain and very unnerving and very -- causes a lot of anxiety and a lot of lack of sleep. >> reporter: she's the president o
to head back to washington from hawaii tonight. today, house speaker john boehner said it's up to the senate to pass legislation to avoid the steep cuts and tax hikes that are set to take effect january 2nd. some observers say it looks likely the u.s. will go over that cliff allowing lawmakers then to vote to lower taxes after they first go up. >> to make them look better? to appease voters? is that the reason? great. . >> meanwhile, another showdown is looming. the government will hit its federal debt limit on new year's eve and could default unless congress passes legislation to permit more borrowing. >>> the passage of proposition 30 gave governor brown the extra money he wanted for california schools. now he's working on a proposal to differencevy up the funds. eats work -- divvy up the funds. >> he wants to return more accountability, authority and decision-making down to local school districts because teachers, administrators and parents have a better sense of what their local priority are than people here in sacramento do. >> the governor's proposal will be included in h
house speaker john boehner could not persuade enough members of his party to let tax rates rise on incomes over a million dollars while sparing everyone else. dana bash is our senior congressional correspondent. dana, this time tomorrow, the president is supposed to be back, having cut his trip to hawaii short, the first lady, the girls are staying in hawaii. the senate is supposed to convene, but not necessarily the house. what is going to happen? >> reporter: well, we're not really sure. in fact, house republican leaders are having a conference call, i'm told, as we speak, to figure out that very question. they told their members that they would have 48 hours notice before they reconvene the house and so at the earliest, that would be on friday. but, you know, the action really is now going to begin in the senate. there isn't that much of a rush for the house to come back. and when i say action, even that is a question mark. whether there will be action. i was talking to a democratic source who said right now what they had to figure out, victor, is whether or not harry reid wo
speaker john boehner failed to get his own bill through the house. so now things are in the s senate's court. leaders there will have to come up with a compromise to avert the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect during the first of the year. president obama had been working with house speaker john boehner, trying to get a big deal, but talks fell apart. so hopes for that have all but faded, the president conceding he would accept a smaller measure as long as it includes taxes going up on the wealthiest americans. if the country goes over the cliff, economists warn it could be dire. the average american would wind up paying about $2,000 more in taxes and eventually, savannah, if we go over the cliff and stay there, the economy could dip back into recession. now, lawmakers are also headed back to d.c. in fact, the senate is back in session tomorrow. savannah? >> short holiday. lot of work to do. kristen welker in honolulu. thank you. willie? >>> former president george h.w. bush spent his christmas in a hospital after a series of setbacks delayed his release. janet shamli
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